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Post by mireigi on Jul 23, 2015 8:54:51 GMT -5
Of course. Racial names should be consistent with the lore. My point is that there should be a lot of leeway within those conventions. Which I think we are already agreeing upon
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Post by whyemmdee on Jul 23, 2015 9:04:28 GMT -5
I don't think there should be strict adherence to naming conventions. As long as characters are not calling themselves xXxLegolasxXx or Hunter-Killer, or any of the other common obsceneties, there shouldn't be an issue. The name chosen should have ties to the race of course, but that's about it. Common names are just that, common names, and parents call their children whatever they want to call them, even if it unusual. It's a very big deal for dwarves and divine (and to a certain extent, antiquan) elves however. We're not going to be enforcing any names, but it's each player's responsibility to contribute to the existing roleplay environment.
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Post by Lugwy on Jul 23, 2015 9:15:37 GMT -5
As someone with a rather unorthodox RL name, I assure you that people are definitely going to bat eyes when your toon has a name that's "out there". The first raised-eyebrow moment is amusing, but the tenth time can very well motivate you to pick up a more conventional nickname. I think the thing being said here is that having an odd name for your race/culture is fine; you just have to be ready to face the weird looks and occasional crack at your expense from it.
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Post by eba on Jul 23, 2015 16:35:25 GMT -5
I don't think there should be strict adherence to naming conventions. As long as characters are not calling themselves xXxLegolasxXx or Hunter-Killer, or any of the other common obsceneties, there shouldn't be an issue. The name chosen should have ties to the race of course, but that's about it. Common names are just that, common names, and parents call their children whatever they want to call them, even if it unusual. Oh yeah, of course, but if you name your elf 'Taladriel Moonflower' it would be like meeting someone in real life named 'Dumbledore Oakenstorm' or 'Phoenix Dark' or 'Apple Paltrow-Marten'. You'd look at them and just assume either their parents were lunatics or they themself are. I do in fact know a few people who have names like this. They do get endless amounts of shit for it.
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Post by jakunen on Jul 23, 2015 19:41:50 GMT -5
Oh yeah, of course, but if you name your elf 'Taladriel Moonflower' it would be like meeting someone in real life named 'Dumbledore Oakenstorm' or 'Phoenix Dark' or 'Apple Paltrow-Marten'. You'd look at them and just assume either their parents were lunatics or they themself are. This reminds me, I need to mock more elves for their stupid Tolkienesque names. First character I see with something akin to Moonflower is going to get a rock thrown at them.
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Post by greypawn on Jul 23, 2015 20:42:24 GMT -5
Gandalf is norse therefore fine for dwarfs!
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Post by AusGre on Jul 23, 2015 21:23:18 GMT -5
Hello,
On this subject do Cassian surnames have to be headed by the 'ap' detail? I did it in my character, but I didn't know if it was still a modern naming convention in their region.
Thank you, AusGre
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Post by dathi255 on Jul 24, 2015 12:35:33 GMT -5
I believe Cassian's are essentially old school Welsh. So I imagine there's some sort of name generator for such characters out there on the interwebs... Quick Google revealed this - The Welsh patronymic system describes family trees in terms of the male line only and records the family association in the 'ap' or 'ab' prefix ('ap' is a contraction of the Welsh word 'mab', which means son). For example, Rhys ap Dafydd translates as 'Rhys, son of David'. I'll just assume this is correct.
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Post by greypawn on Jul 24, 2015 13:17:43 GMT -5
As dathi pointed out, its not a surname. Surnames are listed in the lore. Using 'ap' is more traditional as it was how people identified themselves before surnames within the welsh culture, before foreign influence. If you look at gaelic names you can see similar things like mac and ua (which turned into o) which eventually was pushed together to form a surname. If you wanted to go full blast on it you could make your name something like Rhys ap Dafydd Godwyn
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